Thread Summary
The forum discussion revolves around a treasure hunt scenario where participants are debating potential locations for a buried item. Users discuss measurement units in a 1x1 grid, the use of the CAT system, and the legitimacy of a specific measurement emblem. They also touch on historical changes in the landscape, such as the shifting water's edge over time, and potential burial spots like Dare Avenue or the Water Gate. The conversation includes skepticism about proposed solutions, the importance of process of elimination in solving the puzzle, and the humorous exchange about unsuccessful attempts at finding the treasure. Users debate the possibility of the puzzle leading to a location that no longer exists and the need to be open to different interpretations. The discussion ends with a mention of the beach being significantly altered, potentially affecting the search for the treasure. Key points include discussions on accessibility, historical relevance, and the impact of environmental changes on potential locations.
erexere
Josh, you sound like 99% of everyone else, just pairing a piece of information here and there.
Maybe I'm missing where you actually land on the "how the puzzle works" points.
I get that parts of the puzzle link well to specific landmarks, but why is that exactly? I suspect at least one of the important landmarks will be the zinger, closest to the casque hiding spot, but which one and why? I don't doubt there is a Virginia Dare link. I just don't see how you exploit or explain how it really meets the justification for digging in a specific spot. I think that will be evident once you explain how the puzzle was designed.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
thats the best ive got
Then you are better off forgetting about this particular puzzle and just enjoying the park. Because the Dare Avenue solution was weak sauce when 421 first proposed it, and it's weak sauce today.
fox
JoshCornell1 wrote::
fyi, words on monument were on west, not south...so treasure was buried on WEST side of the tree...which has since been uprooted...so casque is likely out at sea...again...
Out to sea eh? I think your solutions are out to sea.
Houston - 0
New Orleans - 0
St Augustine - 0
Charleston - 0
Roanoke - 0
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
Houston - 0...Roanoke - 0
Fenix, are you keeping score for everyone, or just for Josh? Because my 0-2653* guestimate needs updating and I don't have time to go back and count how many times in the last month someone has proposed a sure-fire solve that has led to an empty hole.
*approximately
gManTexas
Erpobdelliforme wrote::
Fenix, are you keeping score for everyone, or just for Josh? Because my 0-2653* guestimate needs updating and I don't have time to go back and count how many times in the last month someone has proposed a sure-fire solve that has led to an empty hole.
*approximately
You know, process of elimination is an acceptable approach.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
You know, process of elimination is an acceptable approach.
Sure is. Only 997,347 more holes to dig.
gManTexas
Erpobdelliforme wrote::
Sure is. Only 997,347 more holes to dig.
With our powers combined!
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
no longer in location that puzzle leads you to
No, that is entirely within the realm of possibility. As a matter of fact, that seems to be the #1 reason people have used to explain why their foolproof solve led to an empty hole.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
the thing is im not wrong
Not saying that you are. But you should at least allow for the possibility. The puzzle is a lot more fun that way.
fox
Erpobdelliforme wrote::
Not saying that you are. But you should at least allow for the possibility. The puzzle is a lot more fun that way.
I say LET HIM BE RIGHT. After he's visited his 10 sure solves and left empty handed with only a lame excuse of why the casques are irretrievable...perhaps he'll just go on his merry way with his belief that he was right in every solve but since the casques no longer exist he'll say whats the point of continuing?
YES JOSH......YOU ARE 100% CORRECT IN ALL 10 REMAINING CASQUES TO A 1X1 GRID. CONGRATULATIONS
BINGO
fox wrote::
YES JOSH......YOU ARE 100% CORRECT IN ALL 10 REMAINING CASQUES TO A 1X1 GRID. CONGRATULATIONS
Has the unit of measurement ever been established in this 1X1 grid? Inches, feet, yards, chains, links, rods, miles? I’m a surveyor, these things are important to me...
fox
JoshCornell1 wrote::
this beach has been absolutely destroyed...ever tree of that type has been uprooted.
Why would someone doing a treasure hunt bury something on the beach? That is simply ludicrous.
atdreamer2112
BINGO wrote::
Has the unit of measurement ever been established in this 1X1 grid? Inches, feet, yards, chains, links, rods, miles? I’m a surveyor, these things are important to me...
Yes, Bingo, it's clear that Josh is using the CAT (Canadian Analytical Troll) system for measurement to narrow it down to a 1 x 1 grid. That's why his solve rate 99.9+ has far surpassed any of the veteran/geniuses who have been active on this forum all along...
They even have an official emblem for this measurement, which looks like a Pentagram, minus the Star, insert Maple Leaf and Check Mark. It's legit, CONFIRMED. I'm too new, and too tired at this point to figure out how to link an image onto this board, but if you just do a Google Image Search for "Measurement Canada," you can see for yourself!
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
this tree sat on the edge of a little raised piece of land at the EDGE of the beach
In 1980, the water's edge was at least 30-40 feet away from where it is now. This was confirmed by the nice lady who lives in the blue house on the corner, and who showed us the platts for the original development. In addition, there were two houses (since demolished) on the west side of Dare Avenue that were used to house people involved in the production of "The Lost Colony", and that Preiss could have used as gravestones. I have made it clear that I think the Dare Avenue solve is weak, but in 1981-82, that area would have been as likely a burial spot as the overlook in Fort Raleigh, or the Water Gate at the edge of the Elizabethan Garden. And the only one of the three were getting permission would not have been required.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
it would not and could not be in the elizabethan gardens,
Actually, a pretty compelling case has been made for the Water Gate. And while I agree that a private park that requires paid admission would be an impractical place to bury a casque, you can access the Water Gate from the beach, and bypass the EG entirely. Or at least you could back in the day. Sadly, the last time I was there most of the beach was gone, and the WG was slowly falling into Roanoke Sound. So if it was there, it's gone for good.